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Post by Coachslick on Mar 10, 2015 11:52:54 GMT -5
You know what, it's been pointed out to me that my rule is unfair, and apparently is is not "legit".
NO MORE POSITION CHANGES EVER.
I will be undoing all last seasons position changes for everyone who posted.
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Post by Carter on Mar 10, 2015 12:04:07 GMT -5
Well that sucks!
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 10, 2015 12:23:52 GMT -5
I'm open to other suggestions, because now people are PMing me and texting me etc, that this is a drastic overreaction.
What the hell do people want from me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 12:29:10 GMT -5
Don't think it's fair to all for their moves to be reverted. I think this would be reasonable for everyone:
If you want to move a player you have this week to make up your mind. If you don't move him, he's there forever. And to prevent players like Perkins from being moved to SF, and thus being eligible to start at SG: the requirement is that the players will have had to play at least 3 seasons at the desired position. Then moves are closed at the end of the week.
I think this is fair for all. The entire purpose of this rule was clear. Prevent players from playing positions they never played.
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 10, 2015 12:33:25 GMT -5
My phone LITERALLY just died in a huge conversation with GMs regarding this issue. If you see this, know that I can't reply to anything in our group chat. I will catch up at home lol
Work is piling up like crazy anyway. Blessing in disguise
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Post by ealvarez45 on Mar 10, 2015 12:35:32 GMT -5
I would say that this should:
Be the last year a dispersal player may be moved at all.
with all other previous rules in place; being: 1- Must have been drafted in 1975 dispersal draft 2- Must not be owned by the GM who drafted him 2- Must not have been previously moved by another owner
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Post by ealvarez45 on Mar 10, 2015 12:41:27 GMT -5
I would say that this should: Be the last year a dispersal player may be moved at all. with all other previous rules in place; being: 1- Must have been drafted in 1975 dispersal draft 2- Must not be owned by the GM who drafted him 3- Must not have been previously moved by another owner Or that dispersal players can no longer be moved at all; hurting me first with my acquisition of Laettner
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Post by ealvarez45 on Mar 10, 2015 12:46:47 GMT -5
I would say that:
Once a dispersal draft player's rookie contract has expired, he may no longer be moved at all.
with all other previous rules in place; being: 1- Must have been drafted in 1975 dispersal draft 2- Must not be owned by the GM who drafted him 2- Must not have been previously moved by another owner .
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 10, 2015 12:53:18 GMT -5
I would say that: Once a dispersal draft player's rookie contract has expired, he may no longer be moved at all. with all other previous rules in place; being: 1- Must have been drafted in 1975 dispersal draft 2- Must not be owned by the GM who drafted him 2- Must not have been previously moved by another owner . I think this will be more work for me to keep track of. So I'm against more work for me!
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 10, 2015 12:55:18 GMT -5
I think the issue that's been discussed between us is the length of time. I should've just stopped at allowing teams to move them preseason. But me being a big softy I tried to accommodate everyone.
I think we might have to do one of the first two suggestions whether it be this week or this season, I think this will definitely be the end of position changes.
So I guess we all agree reversing the previous moves is too much? Carter obviously not a fan. And Costa has been bending my ear in gchat about it being unfair as well.
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Post by Carter on Mar 10, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5
Don't think it's fair to all for their moves to be reverted. I think this would be reasonable for everyone: If you want to move a player you have this week to make up your mind. If you don't move him, he's there forever. And to prevent players like Perkins from being moved to SF, and thus being eligible to start at SG: the requirement is that the players will have had to play at least 3 seasons at the desired position. Then moves are closed at the end of the week. I think this is fair for all. The entire purpose of this rule was clear. Prevent players from playing positions they never played. I like this suggestion! Its fair and it wraps up the changes by Friday so we can move on.
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 11, 2015 6:44:36 GMT -5
Alright, so a couple things are clear:
1- this isn't actually a problem that needed solving, meaning, it doesn't seem anyone really gives two shits about position changes 2- I'm going to take suggestions from above ad tweak the rule slightly.
1- Must have been drafted in 1975 dispersal draft 2- Must not be owned by the GM who drafted him 3- Must not have been previously moved by another owner 4- Must have played at least 3 seasons (or, if less, it must be 40% of his career, or 2/5) 5- The move must be made within 24 hours following any trade or FA Sim Day 5, or not made at all by acquiring team
Why 40% if not 3? Average NBA career is 4.8 years. I figure 2 out of 5 years is a decent amount of years needed to move a guy. So if he doesn't have 3 years at a position, then 40% of his career, whichever criteria you can meet will match, and it will allow those players who playes shorter career the opportunity to change positions.
Rule 5 will allow me to specifically monitor trades and I can post in the "done" section who in that trade is eligible to be moved and to what positions if he is eligible. That way it's easier for teams to decide and it's not done several sims later, etc etc. Plus the timing of Player movement will then be self explanatory. no movements after the trade deadline and movement can be made any time from the opening of trading (draft untimed) to sim 15 (trade deadline) and can only be done after acquiring a player through FA or trade.
Did I just over complicate things? If so, I'm going to take Hornets first advice and simply make this the last year of position changes period, and once it closes sim 17 it's over.
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Post by AuldDawg on Mar 11, 2015 7:03:06 GMT -5
Personally, I'd like to see position changes closed altogether. We've had a full season to 'correct' anyone that was missed from the dispersal draft and if any are still wrong then it simply means you have players with good ratings that don't play up to their full potential, i.e. may only play well at 1 or 2 positions instead of 3. That's where GMs that do their homework will have an advantage. Just my tuppence
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Post by don1955 on Mar 11, 2015 7:25:06 GMT -5
^^^what he said...just close it an move on...jmo
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Post by Coachslick on Mar 16, 2015 6:13:18 GMT -5
Alright, since the sentiment seems to be to close this mofo forever that's what's going to happen. I will leave this open only until the trade deadline this season then it will never again re open. This way it's fair since I already moved two players this year based on trades. So that's it, once people are done after sim 15 it's over for good.
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